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bushidox
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Wow, three new 1st place scores and another tied for 1st in one session? That is some crazy squeezing there, nice work.
So, I was thinking about what you said on your Face Melters, the scores you said you could get and how many points you could potentially earn:
Bark at the Moon = 359,860 (+88)
Cowboys From Hell = 463,000 (+392)
Frankenstein = 254,000 (+783)
Texas Flood = 256,174 (+2719)
For a total of 3,982 points or enough to beat Lemon for the tier by 164 points. Since you now have the Bonus section 1st place, that would get you 1st in every tier and a comfortable 1st overall. I purposely chose 000 numbers as you didn't indicate what scores you were aiming for beyond that. The precise score for BatM is based on what you have gotten minus the squeeze, and the TF score is exactly 1 point above Lemon's.
I think its more likely you could get the exact score on BatM, CFH at 463,008, a Franky score of 254,017, and a TF score at 256,149 and still have exactly the same points. Curious to see what you think is possible.
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suhdude024
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| bushidox wrote: | Wow, three new 1st place scores and another tied for 1st in one session? That is some crazy squeezing there, nice work.
So, I was thinking about what you said on your Face Melters, the scores you said you could get and how many points you could potentially earn:
Bark at the Moon = 359,860 (+88)
Cowboys From Hell = 463,000 (+392)
Frankenstein = 254,000 (+783)
Texas Flood = 256,174 (+2719)
For a total of 3,982 points or enough to beat Lemon for the tier by 164 points. Since you now have the Bonus section 1st place, that would get you 1st in every tier and a comfortable 1st overall. I purposely chose 000 numbers as you didn't indicate what scores you were aiming for beyond that. The precise score for BatM is based on what you have gotten minus the squeeze, and the TF score is exactly 1 point above Lemon's.
I think its more likely you could get the exact score on BatM, CFH at 463,008, a Franky score of 254,017, and a TF score at 256,149 and still have exactly the same points. Curious to see what you think is possible. |
Yeah, I was really in the zone yesterday!
I like playing this number game, so let me try to break down everything more precisely based on what I think is possible.
Texas Flood (+2730): The big squeeze path (256165) has a score of 105297 @ the end of measure 42. I'm usually at 105317 and no lower than 105309. So this score should be around 256185 when I FC.
Frankenstein (+1300): Based on what Kev did with Frankenstein, I think I can do the same thing on hard. If I can execute both of the "pause glitch" squeezes then I should easily hit 254.5k.
Cowboys From Hell (+400): I'm pretty good at the first double squeeze here, but I struggle with the second. I think it's the BPM change. I also don't use the NI path, I just use the 60% since the last squeeze is awkward for me on the NI path. 463.1k would be really good. Easily 463k if I hit both double squeezes
Bark at the Moon (+100): After studying the path, I found out that I was missing out on ~20-28 points so this score could be close to 359.9k if I execute it properly. Part of me thinks that 360k is possible with that UB squeeze before the solo. I've only tried it a few times and it feels close.
Fire It Up (+200): I shit you not, I fc'd this song 8 times in 9 runs yesterday. All 217.3k. The one run I didn't fc was the one run I hit the extra 200. 217512 for sure when I get that squeeze. And maybe another 400 but I doubt I could get the 400 and the 200 in the same run.
Caveman Rejoice (+148):+148 here. Not much else to add, just have to sit down and go for it.
The Breaking Wheel (+24): +24 here if I can execute Thundershade's path.
Decontrol (+400): I accidentally hit an extra 200 in the second activation yesterday....so 294.4k is possible. 294.2k seems more likely though.
Farewell Myth: It's been done before, so there's no reason why I can't get the extra 400. This might be the last thing I do in GH1 though lol I hate this song.
Fly on the Wall:I can get more, but this song is a pain.
GR2R (+200): Another 200 possible....difficult but possible
Sail Your Ship By (+100): Just ticks
Story of My Love (+50): Just ticks again
So according to my estimates, I can get another ~5600 points. 11,831,000 seems possible....
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Chrisssss
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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You are crazy! So many good scores... you'll get Texas Flood eventually and also 1st place overall.
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suhdude024
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Chrisssss wrote: | | You are crazy! So many good scores... you'll get Texas Flood eventually and also 1st place overall. |
Hey, thanks Chris! I think that I might get it today. Just got home from class, so I have a bit of time to play.
edit: Got frustrated with TF after 4-5 runs...my tolerance for that song is low. Part of me wants to see if I can take 1st overall without FC'ing....
Didn't really accomplish much during my short session yesterday. I did get the 200 in FiU, but not 1st place. The run before this I actually had +16 but I missed the last squeeze because I was trying to hold ticks. I'll get first on this soon I think!
I also got it on vid. I was just trying to see how close I was to hitting that squeeze, so there is no sound (was using headphones).
Fire It Up 217508 Vid
edit: Don't want to double post, so here is the edit. Just got back to 253k 100% overstrum runs on TF. I figured out measure 61 and now I never miss it....I just had the rhythm wrong before. Now I'm missing before the orange streak. I feel sooo close.
Also posted a few new scores today. Really happy with the BatM score especially.
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suhdude024
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Bump for a few scores. And I really need to add that xxx159 is possible on behind the mask. I had xx11 after the first activation yesterday and xx27 after the second. Ended up with xx151 because my last squeeze was meh but there are 2 ticks left on that song, not just 1.
Story of My Love 1st Place Vid
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bushidox
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Very impressive new scores as always. You mention part of you wants 1st without the TF FC. Well, unless you can get those crazy points on Frankenstein, that is simply not possible without a score increase on TF. Please just FC TF already and then see how close you can get to 11,830,xxx points.
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tannernieland11 
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| bushidox wrote: | | Very impressive new scores as always. You mention part of you wants 1st without the TF FC. Well, unless you can get those crazy points on Frankenstein, that is simply not possible without a score increase on TF. Please just FC TF already and then see how close you can get to 11,830,xxx points. |
Yeah no idea why you arent going for TF FC already.
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suhdude024
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| tannernieland11 wrote: | | bushidox wrote: | | Very impressive new scores as always. You mention part of you wants 1st without the TF FC. Well, unless you can get those crazy points on Frankenstein, that is simply not possible without a score increase on TF. Please just FC TF already and then see how close you can get to 11,830,xxx points. |
Yeah no idea why you arent going for TF FC already. |
Well I do have at least a dozen 100% 253k overstrum runs in the past few days. So it's not like I'm not going for it lol I just can't grind that song for too long.
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ThunderShade
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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So when can we see someone use the GH2 path for Frankenstein? :o
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suhdude024
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| ThunderShade wrote: | | So when can we see someone use the GH2 path for Frankenstein? :o |
Assuming that it's possible with the pause glitch, I'll probably get to it some time in the next week or so. I don't have any direction right now with the game, I'm just playing what I feel like playing. 
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ThunderShade
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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| suhdude024 wrote: | | ThunderShade wrote: | | So when can we see someone use the GH2 path for Frankenstein? :o |
Assuming that it's possible with the pause glitch, I'll probably get to it some time in the next week or so. I don't have any direction right now with the game, I'm just playing what I feel like playing. |
You basically just do this path. Subtract 150 from the estimate due to the difference in multipliers, and the solo 3 double is impossible so subtract another 200. Every other squeeze there is I believe possible, but the first act squeeze should be hard.
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suhdude024
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| ThunderShade wrote: | | suhdude024 wrote: | | ThunderShade wrote: | | So when can we see someone use the GH2 path for Frankenstein? :o |
Assuming that it's possible with the pause glitch, I'll probably get to it some time in the next week or so. I don't have any direction right now with the game, I'm just playing what I feel like playing. |
You basically just do this path. Subtract 150 from the estimate due to the difference in multipliers, and the solo 3 double is impossible so subtract another 200. Every other squeeze there is I believe possible, but the first act squeeze should be hard. |
Awesome, I'll give that a try soon.
In other news, I posted crazy Higher Ground and Symphony of Destruction scores. Caught the Higher Ground score on camera.
Higher Ground 1st Place
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bushidox
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, I guess I stand corrected, you have shown that you are capable of getting even more points on songs you already have 1st on. That being said, without either at FC of TF or a massive gain on Franky, the 1,383 points away from Lemon is going to be very hard to get indeed. Your best chances of getting the points are in order:
Texas Flood ~ 2700 points
Frankenstein ~ 540 points (you claim 1300)
Cowboys From Hell ~ 520 points (you think only 400 for you)
Decontrol ~ 400 points
Farewell Myth ~ a VERY hard 400 points.
Other misc points on other songs still.
If you were to get Decontrol +400, Cowboys +400, and Franky +500 that's almost the 1,383 right there. Very impressive stuff, you could actually take 1st without Texas Flood, then use that FC to be the first to 11,830,xxx points.
Nice work on the Symphony of Destruction 1st place, that was one of the oldest scores on the site.
Edit: Fun fact, the oldest non-tied 1st place is No One Like You on Easy
http://www.scorehero.com/rankings.php?group=3&game=4&diff=1&song=988&page=1&highlight=1
The oldest tied 1st is from Behind the Mask on Medium:
http://www.scorehero.com/rankings.php?group=1&game=1&diff=2&song=142&page=1&highlight=1
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tannernieland11
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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If you really want to get optimized scores. UB squeezes I've hit 2nd act SoD 400 and FiU UB 2nd act 400.
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suhdude024
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| bushidox wrote: | Okay, I guess I stand corrected, you have shown that you are capable of getting even more points on songs you already have 1st on. That being said, without either at FC of TF or a massive gain on Franky, the 1,383 points away from Lemon is going to be very hard to get indeed. Your best chances of getting the points are in order:
Texas Flood ~ 2700 points
Frankenstein ~ 540 points (you claim 1300)
Cowboys From Hell ~ 520 points (you think only 400 for you)
Decontrol ~ 400 points
Farewell Myth ~ a VERY hard 400 points.
Other misc points on other songs still.
If you were to get Decontrol +400, Cowboys +400, and Franky +500 that's almost the 1,383 right there. Very impressive stuff, you could actually take 1st without Texas Flood, then use that FC to be the first to 11,830,xxx points.
Nice work on the Symphony of Destruction 1st place, that was one of the oldest scores on the site.
Edit: Fun fact, the oldest non-tied 1st place is No One Like You on Easy
http://www.scorehero.com/rankings.php?group=3&game=4&diff=1&song=988&page=1&highlight=1
The oldest tied 1st is from Behind the Mask on Medium:
http://www.scorehero.com/rankings.php?group=1&game=1&diff=2&song=142&page=1&highlight=1 |
Thanks, I really think I can get ~1300 on Frankenstein. I'm still working on TF every now and then. It'll come soon.
| tannernieland11 wrote: | | If you really want to get optimized scores. UB squeezes I've hit 2nd act SoD 400 and FiU UB 2nd act 400. |
Yeah, I've hit the SoD 400 before. It's just really tough. Way harder than the All of This UB for sure. At least for me.
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