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killermonkey
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1163 Location: Brookings Oregon
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:02 am Post subject: What can I expect with my first gig |
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Hey Scorhero, me and my friends have been jamming for 3 days now, we have a 30 minute set at the Roseland Theatre in Portland Or on Feb 2nd.
It's a battle of the bands type thing I think, and I was just wondering what should I expect for this. I'm scared shitless not gonna lie. I've been in plays and stuff like that but being a death metal vocalist in front of 1000 people that may not like death metal is a bit different.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccIMuiTGnuM&feature=youtu.be
this is us, we definitely need improvement on drums but that'll come. Anyway any critiques and advice is greatly appreciated. _________________
R.I.P Jimmy "The Reverand Tholomew Plague" Sullivan You will be greatly missed as one of the best musicians around in the world today. |
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wallflower
Joined: 03 Sep 2012 Posts: 80
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:52 am Post subject: |
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I wish I could tell you it's all peachy, but knowing you've only jammed 3 times, chances are someone will screw up. Suck it up and move on. If you make it apparent someone screwed up, then the audience will know.
Good luck and have fun. Once you're up there and going, it won't matter. |
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Sarg338
Joined: 07 Feb 2008 Posts: 5143
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Screwing up is normal and I've been to many concerts where big name bands screw up the beginning of the song or something, and they just play it off, probably make a joke (One band had the audience yell "[name] fucked up!"), and just restart. Just play it off, everyone screws up.
Obviously practicing makes it better, but worrying about it makes it worse. I bet once you get your opening song out of the way, you'll be just fine and the nerves will subside. _________________
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killermonkey
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1163 Location: Brookings Oregon
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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thank you both very much, I'm expecting the worst but hoping for the best at this point. It's extra scary being a death metal vocalist when it's not a death metal show, oh well, no matter how good or bad it is I'm gonna have the show filmed so if anyone wants to watch it I'll link it in this thread when it's done. _________________
R.I.P Jimmy "The Reverand Tholomew Plague" Sullivan You will be greatly missed as one of the best musicians around in the world today. |
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blingdomepiece
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 4358 Location: Ottawa ON Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: What can I expect with my first gig |
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killermonkey wrote: | this is us, we definitely need improvement on drums but that'll come. Anyway any critiques and advice is greatly appreciated. |
As a survivor of a few performances, act like every note you played was on purpose, if you screw up don't admit it or show you are bothered by it, and definitely don't restart a song or anything like that. Be a perfectionist in practice, then once you get to the show, do your best and remember to enjoy yourself; if you're having a good time on stage that helps the people watching have a good time too. _________________
Expert Pro Keys: 50/63 GS, most recent The Killing Moon
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Nubnut
Joined: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 2078 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say Blind hit it on the head. Honing your improv skills is vital for performance for all members, so that way if you fuck up you can just run with it and play it off like you meant to do that (admittedly this can get you some weird looks from your band members, but as long as the audience doesn't know any better you'll be just fine). _________________
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wallflower
Joined: 03 Sep 2012 Posts: 80
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:55 am Post subject: |
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killermonkey wrote: | It's extra scary being a death metal vocalist when it's not a death metal show, oh well, no matter how good or bad it is I'm gonna have the show filmed so if anyone wants to watch it I'll link it in this thread when it's done. |
My little brother has been through this exact same thing a few times. Honestly, own it up. Don't feel like the outsider because they're uncomfortable with you. As a Death Metal band you have almost no chance of winning. My brother lost to some old guys stuck in the early 80's soft-rock phase called Blue Powdah Monkeys (He loves the fact that it's a part of band history now because he might go places). |
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Fhdra
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Try to harness as much star power as you can during the easy parts of you songs. Then when you get to more difficult licks, activate it, otherwise the crowd will start booing and you'll have to restart the song all over again. _________________
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killermonkey
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1163 Location: Brookings Oregon
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Fhdra wrote: | Try to harness as much star power as you can during the easy parts of you songs. Then when you get to more difficult licks, activate it, otherwise the crowd will start booing and you'll have to restart the song all over again. |
you sir win at life and just made my morning. And to the poster above you
that's what I'm expecting, I don't think we'll win anything but it'd pretty nifty if we did. Why isn't death metal more common? than again I like it not being common lol _________________
R.I.P Jimmy "The Reverand Tholomew Plague" Sullivan You will be greatly missed as one of the best musicians around in the world today. |
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Nubnut
Joined: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 2078 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:54 am Post subject: |
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I know most people just can't get around the growls, even friends I know who grew up listening to metal like me can't get into the growls in many of the bands I listen to (With the one exception being pretty much anything Akerfeldt does, I seriously have not found a single person who doesn't enjoy his vocals). I can't explain it really, I have some friends tell me it's because they want to understand the lyrics; then go and listen to Gangnam Style... I'll never make sense of people. _________________
1st place on 8 GH:WoR songs on Expert+ drums! (well, at least for a couple days).
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killermonkey
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1163 Location: Brookings Oregon
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Nubnut wrote: | I know most people just can't get around the growls, even friends I know who grew up listening to metal like me can't get into the growls in many of the bands I listen to (With the one exception being pretty much anything Akerfeldt does, I seriously have not found a single person who doesn't enjoy his vocals). I can't explain it really, I have some friends tell me it's because they want to understand the lyrics; then go and listen to Gangnam Style... I'll never make sense of people. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULFh5Y4HnnI&feature=youtu.be
finally got a mic so this is what my screams and growls really sound like. I finally learned how to do real pig squeels too. and I know what you mean. People just hear growls and think what the fuck is this asshat doing, but I'm still gonna give it my all _________________
R.I.P Jimmy "The Reverand Tholomew Plague" Sullivan You will be greatly missed as one of the best musicians around in the world today. |
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Nubnut
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Can't hear your growls too well over the guitar but from what I can hear it sounds like some good screaming in there.
I will say though, I think your drummer needs to work on his chops a bit to say the least... _________________
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Fhdra
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:21 am Post subject: |
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Holy crap dude, you seriously need to reconsider your drummer... _________________
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skinnywhitecomic
Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: What can I expect with my first gig |
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blingdomepiece wrote: | killermonkey wrote: | this is us, we definitely need improvement on drums but that'll come. Anyway any critiques and advice is greatly appreciated. |
As a survivor of a few performances, act like every note you played was on purpose, if you screw up don't admit it or show you are bothered by it, and definitely don't restart a song or anything like that. Be a perfectionist in practice, then once you get to the show, do your best and remember to enjoy yourself; if you're having a good time on stage that helps the people watching have a good time too. |
Excellent advice. This is advice for someone you'd give to someone in an improv show. Everything you do, you MEANT to do that. Own it. Have fun. Don't give a shit about the audience, or what kind of music they like. Fuck 'em. Do your thing and whatever happens, was meant to happen. _________________
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GuitarHailz
Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 4910 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: What can I expect with my first gig |
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skinnywhitecomic wrote: | Don't give a shit about the audience, or what kind of music they like. Fuck 'em. Do your thing and whatever happens, was meant to happen. |
I'm gonna play devil's advocate a bit on this one. Totally agree that you need to own your mistakes - if you go with the flow and act cool with it, so will the audience. But I will also say that "don't give a shit about the audience" as advice for a band isn't necessarily good. Good live bands, in my experience, play off of the audience, see what they're enjoying or not enjoying, and adapt accordingly. If the audience is bored then you must be boring, which is why I think you SHOULD care about the audience to some degree. Not everyone there will like death metal, that much is true, but if you're gonna say "Fuck 'em" to your audience then what is the point of playing in front of people to begin with? Do you want to entertain people with your music, or just play while other people are listening?
Number 1 priority is for them to have fun and enjoy themselves, but the audience is there to have fun, too. If killermonkey suspects this might not be a death metal crowd, IMO he should take that into account when planning his setlist (i.e. - not picking the heaviest songs in their repertoire... or even having a couple of "crowd-pleaser" covers to throw in should the situation warrant it).
But if Guitar Hero loading screens have taught me anything... what ever you do, don't just "jam"!
Disclaimer: I say all this as someone who only kinda-sorta likes death metal. I like what I like, but there is a lot I don't like and I can get why some people outright hate it. Which is why I think going for the happy medium could be better for your first real gig, especially one in front of a varied audience. Does your city have any small venues you can test out before doing the big one in February? It might be better to have your first real show be in front of a death metal crowd... _________________
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