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JCirri
Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 4576
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:42 pm Post subject: Trogdor |
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malictus
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 994 Location: Bloomington, IN
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tpalkki
Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 68 Location: Finland
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:50 am Post subject: |
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malictus wrote: | it's an extra note in the first activation |
So... This must mean there's still 12 points left. _________________
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malictus
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 994 Location: Bloomington, IN
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Beauregard
Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Posts: 447
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:34 am Post subject: |
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i dont think those 12 points exist, i just tied your score on a beautiful run, may be optimal
[Edit] beat it by 4 points *maniacal laugh* _________________
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Cdw01
Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 923 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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Beauregard wrote: | i dont think those 12 points exist, i just tied your score on a beautiful run, may be optimal |
They do. I just got them. It was roughly the same situation with easy. 60,644 looked like it might be optimal, but I managed to get 60,656. Someone somehow got or at least claims to have gotten 60,657, though. |
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Beauregard
Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Posts: 447
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:13 am Post subject: |
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Cdw01
Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 923 Location: New York
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice. We really need to stop throwing around the term optimal so much when there are hold tick squeezes involved. I may try to tie you later, but I'm fine with 2nd on that. |
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emptyset
Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 2254 Location: State College / Elizabethtown, PA
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Also, not to single you out Beauregard, but I'd like it if newspaper screens would stop being posted in the Song FAQ forums. That's what we have the 5-star/Achievements forum for. Otherwise, it adds unnecessary filler to the pages...the only images here should be strictly star power strategy-related. _________________
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tpalkki
Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 68 Location: Finland
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Cdw01 wrote: | Very nice. We really need to stop throwing around the term optimal so much when there are hold tick squeezes involved. |
(This isn't about the song, but I think everyone who cares will read it.)
I definitely agree with this; there's been three "optimal" scores on Trogdor in the last two weeks, there's a "perhaps optimal" score on Yes We Can somewhere around 40th place, and probably 95% of all other "optimals" simply aren't that.
Besides, I hate all of you hold tick & whammying masters. o) _________________
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Beauregard
Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Posts: 447
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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well here is the optimal path, i guarantee that it is, because hitting the squeeze gets every sustain point in on it, the only real hard trick is holding the whammy sustains, and switching fast enough, to get enough SP to pull off the squeeze. while in SP on my run i noticed i was 4 points less than when the the full sustains are accomplished, and on a run where i missed the squeeze i had 97667.
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Cdw01
Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 923 Location: New York
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:07 am Post subject: |
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I ended up tying you now by using the old way and activating right away on the 2nd activation, but that one little tick is still left. I tried getting that new squeeze in for those extra 4 points for a very long time, but I always screwed up something. I did manage to get the squeeze three times, but those were all on throwaway runs where I had screwed up the first squeeze or missed a note. That is one of the hardest squeezes I've tried pulling off and definitely the least rewarding. I'll go for it again another day.
Oh, and the final sp extends out 2 more measures to the first green in measure 37. |
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Beauregard
Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Posts: 447
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:49 am Post subject: |
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after two hours of missing thats squeeze, i finally got those darn 4 points, no doubt in my mind the optimal score _________________
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debr5836
Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 1159 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:21 am Post subject: |
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spopt.pl optimized path for trogdor.mid (medium)
File: trogdor.mid
Solution Path: 3-2
Estimated Base score 18529
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 71095
Estimated SP Score 26772
Estimated Total Score 97867
Activations:
From meas 22.0000 (G note) to meas 28.0278 (Y note) Score: 10612 ((48.0 + 5.1) * 200 )
From meas 31.0556 (G note) to meas 37.0000 (G note) Score: 16160 ((74.0 + 6.8) * 200 ) |
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Cdw01
Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 923 Location: New York
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:30 am Post subject: |
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debr5836 wrote: | Estimated Total Score 97867 | That's the first time I've seen this program actually give the exact optimal score on a song. It did have better paths for a couple songs, though, which I missed before. _________________
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