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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spopt.pl optimized path for badreputation.mid

File: badreputation.mid
Solution Path: 2-3-3-2
Estimated Base score 46580
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 183470
Estimated SP Score 65670
Estimated Total Score 249140
Activations:
From meas 18.8000 (R note) to meas 22.8750 (R note) Score: 9876 ((49.0 + 0.4) * 200 ) (do not fully whammy)
From meas 36.8000 (G note) to meas 42.7000 (RB note) Score: 21600 ((108.0 + 0.0) * 200 )
From meas 67.0000 (G note) to meas 74.8750 (R note) Score: 20528 ((100.0 + 2.6) * 200 )
From meas 85.3438 (Y sust) to meas 90.7500 (R note) Score: 13666 ((66.0 + 2.3) * 200 )
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spopt.pl optimized path for badreputation.mid (expert)

File: badreputation.mid
Solution Path: 2-3-3-2
Estimated Base score 46580
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 183470
Estimated SP Score 65670
Estimated Total Score 249140
Activations:
From meas 18.8000 (R note) to meas 22.8750 (R note) Score: 9876 ((49.0 + 0.4) * 200 ) (do not fully whammy)
From meas 36.8000 (G note) to meas 42.7000 (RB note) Score: 21600 ((108.0 + 0.0) * 200 )
From meas 67.0000 (G note) to meas 74.8750 (R note) Score: 20528 ((100.0 + 2.6) * 200 )
From meas 85.3438 (Y sust) to meas 90.7500 (R note) Score: 13666 ((66.0 + 2.3) * 200 )
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ty for star power path ill get up in ranked alot when i fc this song
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:19 am    Post subject: spopt2.pl results Reply with quote

spopt2.pl results for "Bad Reputation" (gh2-ps2/expert) generated on 07/20/2007

lazy-whammy (246770) PNG TXT
no-squeeze (248710) PNG TXT
big-squeeze (248922) PNG TXT
nearly-ideal (249366) PNG TXT
upper-bound (249582) PNG TXT

KEY
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Lazy Whammy ---- No squeezing, all whammys start 0.5 beats late
No Squeeze ---- No squeezing, no early whammying
Big Squeeze ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, no early whammying
Nearly Ideal ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, 80% of the max possible early whammying
Upper Bound ---- 100% of the max possible squeeze, 100% of the max possible early whammying

big-squeeze path details
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File: badreputation.mid
Solution Path: C2-3-3-2
Estimated Base score 46565
Estimated 4* cutoff 93130
Estimated 5* cutoff 130381
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 183470
Estimated SP Score 65452
Estimated Total Score 248922
Activations:
#1 From meas 18.8000 (R note) to meas 22.8750 (R note) ( 18.7271- 22.9677) Score: 9876 (49.0+ 0.4)*200
#2 From meas 36.8000 (G note) to meas 42.7000 (RB note) ( 36.7008- 42.7008) Score: 21600 (108.0+ 0.0)*200
#3 From meas 67.0500 (R note) to meas 74.8750 (R note) ( 67.0490- 74.8490) Score: 20328 (99.0+ 2.6)*200
#4 From meas 85.3833 (Y sust) to meas 90.7500 (R note) ( 85.3833- 90.7167) Score: 13648 (66.0+ 2.2)*200

nearly-ideal path details
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File: badreputation.mid
Solution Path: C2-3-3-2
Estimated Base score 46565
Estimated 4* cutoff 93130
Estimated 5* cutoff 130381
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 183470
Estimated SP Score 65896
Estimated Total Score 249366
Activations:
#1 From meas 18.8000 (R note) to meas 22.8750 (R note) ( 18.7271- 22.9677) Score: 9876 (49.0+ 0.4)*200
#2 From meas 36.8000 (G note) to meas 42.7000 (RB note) ( 36.7008- 42.7008) Score: 21600 (108.0+ 0.0)*200
#3 From meas 67.1500 (R note) to meas 75.1250 (R note) ( 67.1490- 75.0962) Score: 20728 (101.0+ 2.6)*200
#4 From meas 85.2728 (Y sust) to meas 90.7500 (R note) ( 85.2728- 90.7167) Score: 13692 (66.0+ 2.5)*200

upper-bound path details
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File: badreputation.mid
Solution Path: C2-3-3-2
Estimated Base score 46565
Estimated 4* cutoff 93130
Estimated 5* cutoff 130381
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 183470
Estimated SP Score 66112
Estimated Total Score 249582
Activations:
#1 From meas 18.8000 (R note) to meas 22.8750 (R note) ( 18.7342- 22.9594) Score: 9876 (49.0+ 0.4)*200
#2 From meas 36.8000 (G note) to meas 42.7000 (RB note) ( 36.7008- 42.7008) Score: 21600 (108.0+ 0.0)*200
#3 From meas 67.1000 (G note) to meas 75.1250 (R note) ( 67.1006- 75.0833) Score: 20928 (102.0+ 2.6)*200
#4 From meas 85.2361 (Y sust) to meas 90.7500 (R note) ( 85.2361- 90.7083) Score: 13708 (66.0+ 2.5)*200

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: spopt2.pl results Reply with quote

debr5836 wrote:
Solution Path: C2-3-3-2

Question: What does C2 mean?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Click the giant blue word "HERE" in the post above you.

Basically, it means don't whammy fully.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I realize that this is a old thread, but I'm trying to improve my score on this song, and I thought it was the most appropriate place to discuss my question.

Anyway, on the first star power, I only get the right amout of whammy 1/10 times, and since the first activation has to be perfect, I was wondering if I could simplify it a little bit. Basically, what I tried was not whammying the SP at all, and activating with 2 SP's as in the optimal path. The only difference, of course is hitting the note after the last SP note of the second SP phrase verrrrrryyyy late, and then hitting the last note before the next SP verrrrrrrrryyyyy early. I tried it, and it seemed to work, but I'm new to squeezing, and I didn't know if I was still getting all the notes under SP.

Basically, my question is if just a half bar of SP would get me from the note after the second SP to the note before the next SP, if I abused the timing window enough. Anyone know?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aqWAtvc8x4&fmt=18 Check out the first activation.

To be honest, the whammy doesn't even have to be close to perfect. What you want to do is don't whammy the beginning of the sustain, just the last 1/4 of it and then squeeze the next note. It's hard to stop whammying in the middle of a sustain in GH2 because even after you stop whammying you'll still get a little more. If you wait until the end of the of sustain, you won't have to stop in the middle of the whammy, which I find much more difficult. If you get a little more whammy then you'd like, just activate earlier than you normally would. And squeeze more if you don't get as much whammy as you'd like.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brockbfball1563 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aqWAtvc8x4&fmt=18 Check out the first activation.

To be honest, the whammy doesn't even have to be close to perfect. What you want to do is don't whammy the beginning of the sustain, just the last 1/4 of it and then squeeze the next note. It's hard to stop whammying in the middle of a sustain in GH2 because even after you stop whammying you'll still get a little more. If you wait until the end of the of sustain, you won't have to stop in the middle of the whammy, which I find much more difficult. If you get a little more whammy then you'd like, just activate earlier than you normally would. And squeeze more if you don't get as much whammy as you'd like.


Thanks! That's a handy little trick, I'll definitley try it out and see if I can improve my score. I can hardly ever do real runs since I almost never nail the first activation, and I'll either lose 400-600 points from the activation ending too soon or override the next SP if I whammy too much, so I really appreciate the help!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Master-Tesuch wrote:
I realize that this is a old thread, but I'm trying to improve my score on this song, and I thought it was the most appropriate place to discuss my question.

Anyway, on the first star power, I only get the right amout of whammy 1/10 times, and since the first activation has to be perfect, I was wondering if I could simplify it a little bit. Basically, what I tried was not whammying the SP at all, and activating with 2 SP's as in the optimal path. The only difference, of course is hitting the note after the last SP note of the second SP phrase verrrrrryyyy late, and then hitting the last note before the next SP verrrrrrrrryyyyy early. I tried it, and it seemed to work, but I'm new to squeezing, and I didn't know if I was still getting all the notes under SP.

Basically, my question is if just a half bar of SP would get me from the note after the second SP to the note before the next SP, if I abused the timing window enough. Anyone know?


Ive gotten the first squeeze without whammying at all just fyi. Just hit the sustain really late.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snowyporpoise wrote:
Master-Tesuch wrote:
I realize that this is a old thread, but I'm trying to improve my score on this song, and I thought it was the most appropriate place to discuss my question.

Anyway, on the first star power, I only get the right amout of whammy 1/10 times, and since the first activation has to be perfect, I was wondering if I could simplify it a little bit. Basically, what I tried was not whammying the SP at all, and activating with 2 SP's as in the optimal path. The only difference, of course is hitting the note after the last SP note of the second SP phrase verrrrrryyyy late, and then hitting the last note before the next SP verrrrrrrrryyyyy early. I tried it, and it seemed to work, but I'm new to squeezing, and I didn't know if I was still getting all the notes under SP.

Basically, my question is if just a half bar of SP would get me from the note after the second SP to the note before the next SP, if I abused the timing window enough. Anyone know?


Ive gotten the first squeeze without whammying at all just fyi. Just hit the sustain really late.

Umm, that would make it a triple squeeze . Are you sure you hit it without whammying?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brockbfball1563 wrote:
snowyporpoise wrote:
Master-Tesuch wrote:
I realize that this is a old thread, but I'm trying to improve my score on this song, and I thought it was the most appropriate place to discuss my question.

Anyway, on the first star power, I only get the right amout of whammy 1/10 times, and since the first activation has to be perfect, I was wondering if I could simplify it a little bit. Basically, what I tried was not whammying the SP at all, and activating with 2 SP's as in the optimal path. The only difference, of course is hitting the note after the last SP note of the second SP phrase verrrrrryyyy late, and then hitting the last note before the next SP verrrrrrrrryyyyy early. I tried it, and it seemed to work, but I'm new to squeezing, and I didn't know if I was still getting all the notes under SP.

Basically, my question is if just a half bar of SP would get me from the note after the second SP to the note before the next SP, if I abused the timing window enough. Anyone know?


Ive gotten the first squeeze without whammying at all just fyi. Just hit the sustain really late.

Umm, that would make it a triple squeeze . Are you sure you hit it without whammying?


..are you serious because i KNOW i hit the last note of the phrase( the single yellow) becuase i strummed a gallop for the ...i might have not hit the chord under sp though, does that still count? it really doesnt seem that hard (if I could do it haha)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snowyporpoise wrote:
Brockbfball1563 wrote:
snowyporpoise wrote:
Ive gotten the first squeeze without whammying at all just fyi. Just hit the sustain really late.

Umm, that would make it a triple squeeze . Are you sure you hit it without whammying?


..are you serious because i KNOW i hit the last note of the phrase( the single yellow) becuase i strummed a gallop for the ...i might have not hit the chord under sp though, does that still count? it really doesnt seem that hard (if I could do it haha)

Just to be clear, you're talking about the first activation right? Because based on your most recent post you might be talking about something else.

http://www.slowhero.com/gh2-x360/expert/badreputation.lazy-whammy.best.png

If you didn't whammy the first phrase, then a normal squeeze would go from the R sustain (NN) to the G exactly four measures later. By hitting the second G, it would be a double squeeze, and then the R after that would make it a triple squeeze. Is that right or are we talking about different things?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were talking about the same thing yes. My score was 65298 after the first break. I just hit the first note reallly late and the gallop reallly early, i doubt ill do it again but i know its possible.
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