Trogdor

[TopGearFTW]

[TopGearFTW]

[Barbaloot]

No, 3-2 is just plain better, period. Did you not whammy the last phrase (or activate too late/early)?
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LIBERTY

[Barbaloot]

No, 3-2 is just plain better, period. Did you not whammy the last phrase (or activate too late/early)?
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LIBERTY

[aloneinthedark]

With 2-3 I have only been able to get 170-180k tops.

When I started using 3-2, I can get into 190k, which I NEVER did with 2-3.

[aloneinthedark]

With 2-3 I have only been able to get 170-180k tops.

When I started using 3-2, I can get into 190k, which I NEVER did with 2-3.

[j00rhein]

my high score is 175.430, i can't do the solo at all

[j00rhein]

my high score is 175.430, i can't do the solo at all

[nickeroo2413]

what's a 32th?
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[nickeroo2413]

what's a 32th?
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[f4phantom2500]

I was looking at the chart, and I have a question about the second activation.

So you go up on measure 31 and it runs out on the YB sustain in 36, right?

Well, I'm probably wrong here, but it seems to me that if you activate on the BO in 31, 5/18 of a measure later, that it would run out just after the YO chord in measure 37. You'd miss the first 5 notes of measure 31, but you'd gain the first 5 notes of measure 37 as well as the rest of that YB sustain.

Am I right or is there something I'm overlooking?
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[f4phantom2500]

I was looking at the chart, and I have a question about the second activation.

So you go up on measure 31 and it runs out on the YB sustain in 36, right?

Well, I'm probably wrong here, but it seems to me that if you activate on the BO in 31, 5/18 of a measure later, that it would run out just after the YO chord in measure 37. You'd miss the first 5 notes of measure 31, but you'd gain the first 5 notes of measure 37 as well as the rest of that YB sustain.

Am I right or is there something I'm overlooking?
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[Barbaloot]

A 16th note's worth of SP in a 4/4 measure uses more of your SP bar than an 8th note in a 9/4 measure, so (multiplier considerations aside) there is no reason to back up past 8th note chords in a 9/4 measure in order to pick up 16th note chords in a 4/4 measure. Taking that into account, it would be easier to move your suggested activation four chords earlier, to the second chord of the 9/4 measure (31), and squeeze to the first GY chord of measure 37 for the same number of points.

In order to hit this "easier" version of the squeeze (which is actually included in debr's upper bound chart), you have turn 7 beats' worth of SP whammy (with absolutely zero room for early whammying) into 1 and 17/18 extra measures of SP, corresponding to 7.78 beats in 4/4 time. What you are looking at, then, is more than a 16th note's worth of a double squeeze (in 4/4), in addition to the fact that activating late in the 9/4 measure is not as helpful as it would be in a normal 4/4 measure (you are starting only a tiny fraction of the measure later).

So, all things put together, this squeeze would be even more difficult than Lo7's infamous Yes We Can squeeze, and the only return for hitting it is a trivial amount of ticks. If you are going for a FC, I strongly would not recommend it.


The idea of getting the activation to end after the YO chord in the last measure is a good idea, however, if you are not going for the FC and take into account the likely difference in multiplier. Of course, you would need to start the activation a few chords later than what you mentioned for the squeeze to be realistic. I'll post a copy here of my response to a question from k3v a while back:

[Barbaloot]

A 16th note's worth of SP in a 4/4 measure uses more of your SP bar than an 8th note in a 9/4 measure, so (multiplier considerations aside) there is no reason to back up past 8th note chords in a 9/4 measure in order to pick up 16th note chords in a 4/4 measure. Taking that into account, it would be easier to move your suggested activation four chords earlier, to the second chord of the 9/4 measure (31), and squeeze to the first GY chord of measure 37 for the same number of points.

In order to hit this "easier" version of the squeeze (which is actually included in debr's upper bound chart), you have turn 7 beats' worth of SP whammy (with absolutely zero room for early whammying) into 1 and 17/18 extra measures of SP, corresponding to 7.78 beats in 4/4 time. What you are looking at, then, is more than a 16th note's worth of a double squeeze (in 4/4), in addition to the fact that activating late in the 9/4 measure is not as helpful as it would be in a normal 4/4 measure (you are starting only a tiny fraction of the measure later).

So, all things put together, this squeeze would be even more difficult than Lo7's infamous Yes We Can squeeze, and the only return for hitting it is a trivial amount of ticks. If you are going for a FC, I strongly would not recommend it.


The idea of getting the activation to end after the YO chord in the last measure is a good idea, however, if you are not going for the FC and take into account the likely difference in multiplier. Of course, you would need to start the activation a few chords later than what you mentioned for the squeeze to be realistic. I'll post a copy here of my response to a question from k3v a while back:

[Jord4nK]

[Jord4nK]

[LOTB777]

please FC trogdor!


u will be the only one who will have FC every song haha

[LOTB777]

please FC trogdor!


u will be the only one who will have FC every song haha

[PhD]

[PhD]

[Thinkypink]

Well I think its funny how I can overstrum this song... I had to slow down just to get my -6 run... Oh well...

[Thinkypink]

Well I think its funny how I can overstrum this song... I had to slow down just to get my -6 run... Oh well...

[InhumanHitman123]

just wondering, which streak is faster, trogdor, the hiss in DWDTG, or the beginning in DWDTG straight after the theme lead?

[InhumanHitman123]

just wondering, which streak is faster, trogdor, the hiss in DWDTG, or the beginning in DWDTG straight after the theme lead?

[Barbaloot]

The beginning of TDWDTG and the first half of the evil hiss are fastest (32nds at 150 BPM), followed by the last half of the evil hiss (32nds at 139 BPM), and finally the Trogdor tremolo (32nds at 130 BPM).
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[Barbaloot]

The beginning of TDWDTG and the first half of the evil hiss are fastest (32nds at 150 BPM), followed by the last half of the evil hiss (32nds at 139 BPM), and finally the Trogdor tremolo (32nds at 130 BPM).
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[AdamHero]

Can someone give me a path for coming out of the solo without a combo?

[AdamHero]

Can someone give me a path for coming out of the solo without a combo?

[snowyporpoise]

[snowyporpoise]