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JCirri
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 Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:42 pm Post subject: Killing in the Name |
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Barfo
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| Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Last note of this song is wrong - its a YB chord not a B solo note.
It seems the program for grabbing these has some error with the last note sometimes being a chord instead of a three-button shord - or a solo note instead of a chord, ive seen that in a lot of songs. |
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Sully 
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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4-4-3-2
First activation around "told" in the 3rd "Now you do what they told ya!" Should wear off right before 5th sp phrase.
Second activation right after 4th "Now you do what they told ya!" Shoud wear off right before 9th sp phrase.
Third activation during Y sustain at end of 11th sp phrase. Timing here is hard to explain- should last right up intil next (12th) sp phrase starts.
Fourh activation immediately after 13th sp phrase. |
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Sully
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Can you get 1/2 a meter from measures 97/98? |
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Javman158
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| Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| Sully wrote: | | Can you get 1/2 a meter from measures 97/98? |
It's been a while since I played this, but looking at the note chart I don't think it's possible. There's about 6 3/4 beats of whammy, which would be short 3/4 of a beat of whammy to get a SP use out of it. Even hitting them early I can't see it being possible, you'd fall ever so slightly short, maybe about 1/4 of a beat of whammy or so. |
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rabies
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| Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Sully wrote: | | Can you get 1/2 a meter from measures 97/98? |
optimally executed ..it amount to 7 beats...so no. |
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Sully
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| Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Sully wrote: | 4-4-3-2
First activation around "told" in the 3rd "Now you do what they told ya!" Should wear off right before 5th sp phrase.
Second activation right after 4th "Now you do what they told ya!" Shoud wear off right before 9th sp phrase.
Third activation during Y sustain at end of 11th sp phrase. Timing here is hard to explain- should last right up intil next (12th) sp phrase starts.
Fourth activation immediately after 13th sp phrase. |
Sully- Killing in the Name Hard SP
Red question mark in measure 98 as I'm not sure of the optimal point of activation. |
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Cdw01
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| rabies wrote: | | Sully wrote: | | Can you get 1/2 a meter from measures 97/98? |
optimally executed ..it amount to 7 beats...so no. |
Actually, it's a lot closer than that. In fact, I think someone could pull it off if they got every little bit of extra whammy possible. There are roughly 6.83 beats of whammy existant, and you're able to get about 1/4 extra beat per note, so that translates to about 7.58 beats total if you're perfect, which would actually be enough to get it.
Edit: I tried many times getting it on medium and failed. To take it down to a tick requirement, you need 187.5 ticks to get the activation. There are 172 ticks available in the notes. If you can get 5-6 extra ticks/note, you would get it. However, I'm not sure if that many extra ticks are possible at such a slow tempo. If it was at a faster tempo, it would be a lot easier.
Edit 2: You can only get about 1/8 extra beat of whammy per note due to the really slow tempo, so it's definitely not possible.
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Cdw01
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Barfo wrote: | Last note of this song is wrong - its a YB chord not a B solo note.
It seems the program for grabbing these has some error with the last note sometimes being a chord instead of a three-button shord - or a solo note instead of a chord, ive seen that in a lot of songs. |
For some reason, the last note in each difficulty is the note for the difficulty below it, which is why the last note is completely cut off on easy, and the note is oftentimes wrong in the chart for the other difficulties. |
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eXcelon969 
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4 4 2 2
got every hold tick so unless someone can squeeze in another chord an the end, this puppy is optimal
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debr5836
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spopt.pl optimized path for killinginthenameof.mid (hard)
File: killinginthenameof.mid
Solution Path: 4-4-2-2-S1
Estimated Base score 78142
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 305988
Estimated SP Score 105496
Estimated Total Score 411484
Activations:
From meas 42.0000 (BO note) to meas 49.9219 (BO sust) Score: 25196 ((124.0 + 2.0) * 200 )
From meas 75.0000 (BO note) to meas 82.9167 (O note) Score: 27200 ((136.0 + 0.0) * 200 )
From meas 91.0000 (O note) to meas 95.0417 (Y note) Score: 15900 ((78.0 + 1.5) * 200 )
From meas 114.0000 (BO note) to meas 120.0000 (GR note) Score: 37200 ((186.0 + 0.0) * 200 ) |
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debr5836
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:51 am Post subject: spopt2.pl results |
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spopt2.pl results for "Killing in the Name" (gh2-ps2/hard) generated on 07/20/2007
lazy-whammy (409112) PNG TXT
no-squeeze (410712) PNG TXT
big-squeeze (411512) PNG TXT
nearly-ideal (411912) PNG TXT
upper-bound (411912) PNG TXT
KEY
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Lazy Whammy ---- No squeezing, all whammys start 0.5 beats late
No Squeeze ---- No squeezing, no early whammying
Big Squeeze ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, no early whammying
Nearly Ideal ---- 80% of the max possible squeeze, 80% of the max possible early whammying
Upper Bound ---- 100% of the max possible squeeze, 100% of the max possible early whammying
big-squeeze path details
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File: killinginthenameof.mid
Solution Path: 4-4-2-2-S1
Estimated Base score 78128
Estimated 4* cutoff 156256
Estimated 5* cutoff 218758
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 306004
Estimated SP Score 105508
Estimated Total Score 411512
Activations:
#1 From meas 42.0000 (BO note) to meas 49.9167 (BO sust) ( 41.9167- 49.9167) Score: 25208 (124.0+ 2.0)*200
#2 From meas 75.0000 (BO note) to meas 82.9167 (O note) ( 74.9177- 82.9177) Score: 27200 (136.0+ 0.0)*200
#3 From meas 91.0000 (O note) to meas 95.0417 (Y note) ( 91.0182- 95.0182) Score: 15900 (78.0+ 1.5)*200
#4 From meas 114.0000 (BO note) to meas 120.0000 (GR note) (113.9990-119.9990) Score: 37200 (186.0+ 0.0)*200
nearly-ideal path details
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File: killinginthenameof.mid
Solution Path: 4-4-2-2-S1
Estimated Base score 78128
Estimated 4* cutoff 156256
Estimated 5* cutoff 218758
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 306004
Estimated SP Score 105908
Estimated Total Score 411912
Activations:
#1 From meas 42.0000 (BO note) to meas 49.9167 (BO sust) ( 41.9167- 49.9167) Score: 25208 (124.0+ 2.0)*200
#2 From meas 75.0000 (BO note) to meas 82.9167 (O note) ( 74.9177- 82.9177) Score: 27200 (136.0+ 0.0)*200
#3 From meas 91.0000 (O note) to meas 95.0417 (Y note) ( 91.0182- 95.0182) Score: 15900 (78.0+ 1.5)*200
#4 From meas 113.8750 (YB note) to meas 120.0000 (GR note) (113.8740-119.9778) Score: 37600 (188.0+ 0.0)*200
upper-bound path details
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File: killinginthenameof.mid
Solution Path: 4-4-2-2-S1
Estimated Base score 78128
Estimated 4* cutoff 156256
Estimated 5* cutoff 218758
Estimated Perfect w/o SP 306004
Estimated SP Score 105908
Estimated Total Score 411912
Activations:
#1 From meas 42.0000 (BO note) to meas 49.9167 (BO sust) ( 41.9167- 49.9167) Score: 25208 (124.0+ 2.0)*200
#2 From meas 75.0000 (BO note) to meas 82.9167 (O note) ( 74.9177- 82.9177) Score: 27200 (136.0+ 0.0)*200
#3 From meas 91.0000 (O note) to meas 95.0417 (Y note) ( 91.0120- 95.0120) Score: 15900 (78.0+ 1.5)*200
#4 From meas 113.8750 (YB note) to meas 120.0000 (GR note) (113.8710-120.0010) Score: 37600 (188.0+ 0.0)*200
Please post any bugs/questions about these auto-generated paths HERE. |
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